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Lord Rapture
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.11.29 19:04:00 -
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now the bombers are no longer useful against subcaps, aeon and wyvern does not have the drone space to field both 20 bombers/fighers and standard essential drones like sentries and mid/light. ecm/neut drones. +25km3 like the hel has would solve everything!!
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Lord Rapture
Amarr
Appetite 4 Destruction
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Posted - 2010.11.29 19:18:00 -
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 Originally by: Scatim Helicon
Better idea: reduce the dronebays of all supercarriers so they have to choose between fighters and bombers.
sure, than reduce supercarrier cost by 50% or else it would be ******ed beyond comprehension
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Lord Rapture
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.11.30 09:13:00 -
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Originally by: darius mclever
Originally by: Lord Rapture
Originally by: Scatim Helicon
Better idea: reduce the dronebays of all supercarriers so they have to choose between fighters and bombers.
sure, than reduce supercarrier cost by 50% or else it would be ******ed beyond comprehension
you are still immune to normal ewar and such. besides ... reduced dmg just means you no longer wtfbbq them. they will still go down after a while.
no it's not jsut reduced damage, it's reduce to insignificant levels. maxed out nyx will take like an hour to kill a plated bs. a aeon/wyvern would doesnt have the drone bay to fight off subcaps.
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Lord Rapture
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.11.30 14:14:00 -
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Heavy drones are stupidly slow, and easily killed with smartbomb. switching between fighters n bombers on hotdrop is simply not a realistic thing to do, where you gonna put 20 spare fighters? certainly not in ur corp hanger.
Originally by: Furb Killer
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These things are bordering overpoweredness already anyway
They lost sight of that border months ago, they are ridiculously overpowered.
If you expect to fight caps just take FBs and some spares with you, remaining drone bay is more than enough for practically infinite ammount of regular drones, and believe me 20 t2 ogres dont require an hour to kill a plated BS. And you can also send 20 warriors against interceptors.
If you expect to be hotdropping on subcaps you replace your FBs with regular fighters.
Supercarriers are the only ships in eve that are suited to engage every opponent without problems and with ridiculous dps. A serious nerf to their drone bay would be a nice start, how about removing the ability to use anything besides fighters and fighter bombers.
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Lord Rapture
Amarr
Appetite 4 Destruction
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Posted - 2010.12.01 11:22:00 -
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This makes no sense. Nyx gets damage bonus, Aeon/Wyvern gets tanking bonus. there is no reason nyx should be able to carry 50km3 more drones
Originally by: Kara Sharalien
The aeon and wyvern both have defensively orientated bonuses. They are tactical deployment, not general use. All supercarriers are, to a degree, but those two more so. If you want a ****cannon, you should use the nyx. Its easier to kill, but packs more damage, an appropriate tradeoff.
The Hel is also designed for fleet deployment, but since it has neither a defensive nor offensive bonus, the least you can do is give it more drone space.
TL;DR train for different super-carriers if you want different options.
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Lord Rapture
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Posted - 2010.12.01 12:08:00 -
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******ed comment, they get bonus to Damage, which is a fair tradeoff. there is no reason for a vastly superior drone bay size.
Originally by: Kara Sharalien
Edited by: Kara Sharalien on 01/12/2010 11:45:25
Originally by: Lord Rapture
This makes no sense. Nyx gets damage bonus, Aeon/Wyvern gets tanking bonus. there is no reason nyx should be able to carry 50km3 more drones
Yes there is, and I very clearly spelled it out. Let me use shorter words. I'll write in caps so they are easier to read as well.
NYX's ARE MORE FRAGILE THEN WYVERNS OR AEONS. THEY ARE DESIGNED FOR KILLING OVER SURVIVAL. THEY HAVE BEEN GIVEN THE TOOLS FOR THAT. THIS INCLUDES A MORE GENEROUS DRONEBAY.
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